Tooliom Welder, And Odd Ways To Provide A Cord to Adapt to 240V

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Has anyone had experience, yea or nay, with Tooliom Chinesium welders? I just picked one up based on some decent recommendations from Amazon/YouTube. The crazy thing is, while it internally switches from its built-in 120V household plug's current to 240V once its plugged in, the adapter cord they provided is unlike any I have ever seen. It has a female 120V NEMA 5-15 - standard household for the welder to plug in to. The other end of the 12" long adapter is a NEMA 6-50P male. The crazy thing is the household female's two slots are to each hot leg of the 240V male. This means it's a cord that COULD accept any old household appliance, and get plugged into 240V!! Not that I am going to do this, and I clearly put a label on it: "Welder Use Only!" Has anyone run into these odd, impossible-to-find adapters, lest I need to replace this one for loss or damage? Nowhere on Amazon or any other site can I find these. I could buy the parts and custom make one....at 2x the cost! :mad:

Also, are there adapters for the same welder that have instead of the 6-50P typical welder 240V plug, a L14-30P, the circular locking 4-lug plug for 240V on generators? That'd be handy, too.
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That adapter cord you describe is the same thing that people fabricate (because they aren't sold) to charge a Chevy Bolt. If the Bolt sees both blades hot it charges at 240 volts, twice as fast as it would with its native adapter plugged into a 120v outlet. Your welder is essentially a twin to the Bolt.

It's legitimately what you need for that welder, however there's a big danger someone will sooner or later plug a grinder etc into it thinking it outputs 120 volts.

In summary just weird Chinese stuff, that could never be sold here if the safety police learn of it, but it does work as intended.

If I had that I would take a short piece of rope, wrap and tie it to the the welder's cord above the plug, then down beyond the adapter's socket and wrap/tie it there. So that this semi-permanent rope would have to be removed before the bogus 240 volt socket is accessible.
 
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gckshea

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That adapter cord you describe is the same thing that people fabricate (because they aren't sold) to charge a Chevy Bolt. If the Bolt sees both blades hot it charges at 240 volts, twice as fast as it would with its native adapter plugged into a 120v outlet. Your welder is essentially a twin to the Bolt.

It's legitimately what you need for that welder, however there's a big danger someone will sooner or later plug a grinder etc into it thinking it outputs 120 volts.

In summary just weird Chinese stuff, that could never be sold here if the safety police learn of it, but it does work as intended.

If I had that I would take a short piece of rope, wrap and tie it to the the welder's cord above the plug, then down beyond the adapter's socket and wrap/tie it there. So that this semi-permanent rope would have to be removed before the bogus 240 volt socket is accessible.

Thank you. I'm likely going to clip off the 120V plug from the welders cord and put on a 6-50P 240v welder plug. Then if ever I must use 120v, I'll fab an adapter than can't be bassackwards.
 

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Thank you. I'm likely going to clip off the 120V plug from the welders cord and put on a 6-50P 240v welder plug. Then if ever I must use 120v, I'll fab an adapter than can't be bassackwards.
That makes more sense than what the welder came with!

I made a related adapter. The barn has a 30 amp clothes dryer outlet in the shop. I had a 6 ft cord assembly for a clothes dryer, and put a 6-50 (welder) female outlet on the bare end of it.
 

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What is the barn circuit, 3 or 4 wire.
A couple things. 1st, there are imports that are good, why go out of the way to find some bastard brand no one ever heard of reviewed by some sim bulbs from never land and second should return it or file it in the scrap where it belongs. If they make that adapter where is so easily seen and obvious the insides got to be suspect too and guy that designed that has no respect for you or your property.
 

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Thank you. I'm likely going to clip off the 120V plug from the welders cord and put on a 6-50P 240v welder plug. Then if ever I must use 120v, I'll fab an adapter than can't be bassackwards.
That is not a great idea, it is if you want to burn the joint down but most MVP adapters are special, they are not simply a rewire. The machine is fine on a 120V circuit but without adapter has no protection at 240V. I spose its possible they wired this heavy enough but really doubt it considering the rest of it. It could be like the old multi voltage machines but would really want to know before I id something like that.
 
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