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It wont know the cord is there.

I near bet a single circuit in pipe and that is a number 12 wire machine. If you use cable use 1 size bigger.

As a side not my neighbor was pricing some scheme the poco was advocating as saving and we calculate would have taken several years, I forget exact now to break even on the wire cost. Would have taken a lifetime at full skilled labor rates on top of that.

We got engineers on these forums would be interesting to calculate how long or how many operational hours it would take with that machine at 80% output to save 5$ in power if a guy used a number 6 wire,,,, ha

One of the guys on the Miller forum just got a new multi and said it really flies. He was moving, downsizing and also didnt have to upgrade power for some old monster and selling it for some insane price anyway. It was always somewhat a problem when I was a sprout but we got so much better...

I been at this a while. That machine will run dandy from a 10 cable 50 ft long. They list 40 breaker but it should be legal on circuit to 50. Save some jack on the wire and buy another grinder.

There might be instruction sheet with this welder? The electric supply guy is correct, its worth a look in the manual. You would be good at 8 also. The general rule is 5% and you are likely basing this on rated output qhich is rather rare for home/diy/ non outright welding shop production...

They scrap these by the hundreds every day,,, no one does this regular does it like these diy schemes, Too dangerous and too slow,

One of these days we gonna see a thread here about what went boom cutting all these things.

I agree, is this worth it? This machine has a place, if its a hobby its ok, if its free its ok but it wouldnt be for me to cobble a feeder on to it.

It's not true so to speak because the gage is wrong. I the spiral will be too tight, should have a 9 inch flight.

I haven't looked for a used one but I wanna make this from the 12 inch it is to 18. Need someone with a mind greater than my own to make a pattern, I could use scraps. I was gonna use some cardboard, make a common pattern and piece it. Even thought to use tabs and bolt on. It's not going to see...

As soon as the new piece comes I am gonna torch this worn out skid pan off. I need to find some pics of one I reman a couple years ago and paint all up like the color of one of those stickley green apples

Just wondered if there was a magic blend.

I am having a brain seizure, what gas is the gang using on stainless?

That is not a great idea, it is if you want to burn the joint down but most MVP adapters are special, they are not simply a rewire. The machine is fine on a 120V circuit but without adapter has no protection at 240V. I spose its possible they wired this heavy enough but really doubt it...

What is the barn circuit, 3 or 4 wire. A couple things. 1st, there are imports that are good, why go out of the way to find some bastard brand no one ever heard of reviewed by some sim bulbs from never land and second should return it or file it in the scrap where it belongs. If they make...

I use 11. I have a Maxstar, I like them for restrike, the nature of the work makes the difference irrelevant and 11 has very good mechanical properties. I believe they do list it for some pipe . Just had 50# in good shape given to me, will last me to the end. 10# go a long way these days.

The difference between 10 and 11 is minor. The biggest reason for the part time to use 10 as they can take some from work. Used to be an old joke, buy ac and buy rods, spend another 100 on DC and never got to buy rod again

6011 is the sheet rod. For a couple of reasons. While 6013 is talked about real sheet guys use 11 as it freezes fast and is the lowest current. 13 takes a lot of power. It penetrates a little less but uses higher current and freezes slow. But ,,, ,,, if you are doing sheet it's worth getting...

The difference between inverter and a 63 Wards is the new is DC. Really uses "professional" rods for out of position work on equipment, piping etc.

bought at a sale.

Welding has changed a lot and in the right environment could easily get buy with 3 real machnes, a welder or 2, a plasma , all small to do the work I end up really doing. I dont wanna be doing real welding anymore anyway. I dont mond tacking up some brackets but running a real weld job shop...

All that great stuff is a liability in the end. I got a lot of shate cause I need it, not that I need everything I got but if I was gonna live out amongst the world would get it down to a science using the least stuff. would narrow my trade so I didnt need every tool they ever invent.

Its a somewhat difficult concept to grasp that the wire sizing IS the thermal protection and not the breaker.

Ok,,, was in a hitch assembly and was assembled internal when built. I cut a window and got it out, thye pins all worn and the threads stripped out. I wasnt thrilled about 1 nut so I timed 2 and weld some ears on it. After I did it figured out a slightly easier way but this goes inside a tube...

Had a stripped out forged piece.

This isn't a hobby for me. Unlike a lot of guys I read about if I won the lucky lotto you would hear my tools hit the floor and second call after getting a couple new cars sent over would be to the scrap dealer. I am not going to retire to work on bunch of rusty cars. It's ok, wish you...

I had a referral the other day for a simple job. The guy said, not really what I expected and he figured if he had the tools could do it in 2 or 3 hrs. I needed to be done, 45 minutes, I charge for the hr. Added 2$ to the bill for a bolt. I do use misc for materials to bump it up, people...

I would need a new truck to work regular, this looks ok at first but it's too old. If I am working daily, all day hard work I like a heavy truck with lots of stock and rigged so I need my coffee, lunch and my phone, truck all rigged, big fuel tanks, double bottles, long leads. I carried some...

If the rate was advertised as 150 not many would walk in. Posted shop rates around here are 80 to 100. I do some minor stuff and am fairly fussy., do some work.others wont and I generally quote and am the time keeper. When asked I simply say the rates are based on 50. I say 50 to 75...

They are scrap simply added as needed, hangers etc. I like a shelf under, no real holes, overhang and the most important 2 tables, one with the rotator vise. The whole deal is ergonomic.

1605 I have about 4 or 5 others. This is what I used today on brush hog repair.

It would get a 3 bead fillet down each side and not fuss with anything else or cleaning slsg out of a groove.

If there I'd room for the weld why bother with a bevel?

The reason for DC is really all position. DC is used for real work, there used to be a standing joke that a guy buys ac machine and has to buy rod, guy spends another 100 on DC and never has to buy rod. Real construction work uses 6010 and 7018.

When I bought the Maxstar I got some small 11 and small 13. Both a waste Used 1 13 and about a dozen 3/32 11 in 15 years. Just dont use them, so used to 1/8 11 that its reflected to reach for it.

Someone mention pros using lots of different rods I kind of think not do much. The amateur gets and tries every rod they make. The pro has a cellulose rod in 1 or 2 sizes, and 7018 in 2 sizes. I can use any of them but really dont. My neighbor just dropped 45# of 1/8 6011 in good shape and...

My favorite weld to do is 7018 overhead fillet.

Guy was on Floor talk some years ago, world class welder. A+ and then some kept focus on how good he was but never grasp that it was irrelevant unless you market it and no one beat a path to the door over it. Only some need that level, aero and cryo etc, nuke. No one cares or willing to pay for...

I am writing for others, this is general babble and not aimed at Gary, no one has to tell him how hard some of it is

From the welding end,,, obviously the better all around a guy is the easier, obviously some requires special skill. Gary has this in spades, can do pressure and leak tight probably in every weird position but I know another guy pretty fair welder but being a shitty mechanic holds him up some...

Yes, well established with good client list. At 150 per hr I bet they do walk in but lean on commercial customers. Most that do hoses do them on the spot. It takes quite a little stock to do it well. There are lots of kinds of fittings. Lots of Euro equipment floating around.

Gary knows more about welding g than I ever will but,,, have a good bud with the same type of problem so to speak. He is a genius mechanic but tries to copy a business model from the company he worked for. Also small walk in can be tough, I know a guy or 2 do it but they live hand to mouth...

Its a rare day I move a mig for field work, the 160 inverter is the best thing they ever invented for that. 1/8 6011, 3/32 7018 and 1/8 7018 if you have 240V

I open them with a torch but fabricate with a plasma.

The fact that the incoming wire is 1 size larger is the thermal protection for it. It is a co.mon statement that comes up in most threads that,,,, the breaker is only there to protect the building wire from overheating. This is only true where too many appliances can be plugged in to the same...

I believe at the scrap they pump them to recover the liquid. Then send them to the yard to the Mexicans with a torch. Use LP tip and had liquid O2 bottle. Had a yard best here and they cut 100s, 2 or 3 torches a time burning them up.

Whoops, I write that fast on phone. Last LP I cut was in cold weather and almost empty I think it burned maybe 20 seconds.

Last OP one I cited was colder out and only had 50# in it and burned about 20 seconds It's a little unnerving the first time you do it but the scrap yard had a whole crew of Mexicans cutting them for weeks.

I almost forgot this tank had gas in it at one point. Propane not so much a problem as they are pressurized with gas but lots of people injured from working on other tanks.

I saw another trailer frame job on here, this we did way time ago. Fenders were a little problematic.

How they scrap them is make sure there is a little pressure at least in it and melt a hole in it with a torch. , dont blow 02 in to it. Melt it sand flare it off then cut in half.

I dont care for a card says,,, no job too big or small. I understand there can be some carry over but on occasion I see small starts say that and they are not usually around for long. I take little things if they come in easy but dont hunt them down. I got a small walk in the other day and it...

I see a couple local singers write up jingles for business Got her smiling face in front of 1/3 the state every hour.

I dont pay attn but its not cheap but the best and some better than others advertise. The burger is really worth the extra dollar, its not on fire and all grease and the brats are the best, better than some featured in other stores. He doesnt advertise, not a nickle. Not a great personality...

We had a store close recently. The owner is a swell guy and he try hard enough but he knows more about this thing than mpost people. Even had some personality to sell but didnt understand the marketing the physical plant. Some picture of roast would help along with deli and the smell but no...

I see women try to sell potholders at fleas and frustrated they cant make 50 cents an hour at it. Cry cause no one will buy,,, well its so fuggin boring, they are boring, they all look alike. When brainstorming this venture,, a bud worked for Ross as consultant tols me,,,, thats a good enough...

I am not enough an artist, I salvage, have a little talent for re use and salvage but its really work for me. I see Jenny Grumble on Storage Wars a shining example of this. Mary Padigan another good one, they work cheap enough to hire and the art training used to color coordinate so much of the...

I will agree about art. There is a lot of it though sooo,,,,,,,,,,,, the good things being can often work at your opwn speed and the potential for salvage is huge and scrap is down. I might get a few specialized tools, a 48 inch finger brake, a plasma for using appliance sheet. Soooo much of...

They used this crappy Chemtron Atom Arc. Cost them a fortune. They were super fussy at start and had to long arc a second or they had porosity in the start. Very highly inspected and finished work.

I used to keep them hot but dont bother anymore. I worked in the same plant as Milo Milo who is on SFT. He was an inspector and I was a welder. We got a little drawing every day and a slip that you went to semi trailer that had maybe 100 or more 10# ovens in it plugged in and hot Then went up...

Something is wrong with that picture. The DC is sooooooo far superior. It will run all the electrodes better.

Where downtime is money is the place I look for. Another a bit ago was for a repair his bud with the buzzer did,,, said,,, fix it so I can get it back and I said, no, I am not doing that and why would you want to take it back to the guy botched it? I complete the repair and another one...

I think certain business types respond better to adds than others. I know a couple do this, its a challenge and need to wade thru a lot to make headway. On occasion one leads to another but its slim. I take a few, charge reasonable if its easy and usually they tip me. Had one I charge 75 for...

I think the pic makes it look porous, its some soot on the surface and maybe little coverage loss as I do these in about a minute. I see every post mentions if it was this and if it was that but it really isnt. This is connected to 050 and some 065 tubing and pumped at 150# I agree dirty...

Now,,,, before we go much farther and I need to resist the urge to say,,, you dont know wtf you talking about,,, I have found,,, I have never been right about what " think" the code should be or some reason they got it wrong and if you are inspired by an original or better idea you are not...

Contrary to some belief number 10 can be loaded higher than 30A, actually 60 is the limit, 50 for number 12 and 30 for 14,,,, this is for welders and the allowed over current protection within some equipment. The breaker in these types of circuits DOES NOT protect the building wire for...

At this point unless there is a specific need we should keep in mind this is for factory supplied cord and plug machines. Its worth noting that the minimum sizes are for single circuit in pipe, for cords and cables its up 1. But almost NONE of them require 6 and certainly not cords and not in...

There needs to be a continuous thread on this. A lot of misunderstanding. This is a start. Seems to be confusion on cord sizing. Basically all 240V machines come cord and plug come 6-50. They need to be designed to be able to safely plug in to a common 50A welder circuit. The 240 only...

The 30$ B&D grinder is as good or better, might even be the same as the DeWalt. The 402 is one of my faves for feel but dont really hold up very well.

Where did 100s of pounds of electrodes go in to these 10$ profit venture? How many rolls of wire does this take?

Look for a DC version,,, much better unit, wide choice of electrodes and very good arc.

They cut them in the scrap yard all the time. Had a crew up here cut 100s They open the valve till the pressure starts to drop and burn them with a torch.

Can melt the flanges off similar to simple fusion weld, really fast and thrifty with wire. Very rarely tig anymore.

We weld cast alum fittings with simple wire and spooly all the time